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#1 User is offline   soulfire 

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Posted 30 June 2010 - 07:34 AM

My 2000 Cyclone is pinging badly when it gets the least bit hot. I currently have a V&H exhaust, forcewinder intake, stage 3 jetting,and a screamin' eagle ignition and I run 93 octane. I have not changed the timing but would like to do it myself. Can someone guide me throught the process of atleast checking it. I've also heard stories about VOES? No idea what that is...

If I don't get e response, this will be my last post on this site. I'll get help elsewhere...
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 05:27 PM

what have you done to the engine that requires the stage 3 jetting? i don't think a stock engine with intake/ exhaust needs a stage 3 jet kit. or the screamin eagle ignition for that matter. how aggressively is it set? have you adjusted your valves lately? how many miles are on the engine?
also, you do know what VOES is in post #11. http://www.sporttwin..._1&#entry176528
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it sounds like one of your settings somewhere has come undone/ needs adjusted.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 06:02 AM

Totally forgot I posted that. I guess I'm in panic mode because it's bad. I was under the impression these bikes have hydraulic lifter and don't need valve adjustment? I do hear a bit to much valve noise when it's warm to think of it. Sounds like I need a tune up... crap.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 03:48 PM

View Postsoulfire, on 02 July 2010 - 07:02 AM, said:

Totally forgot I posted that. I guess I'm in panic mode because it's bad. I was under the impression these bikes have hydraulic lifter and don't need valve adjustment? I do hear a bit to much valve noise when it's warm to think of it. Sounds like I need a tune up... crap.


it does have hydraulic lifters & doesn't require valve adjustments. That being said, they do tend to run noisy, especially when hot. Nothing to worry about though, it's when everything gets quiet that you need to get your wallet warmed up.
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 05:37 AM

View Postdyna, on 02 July 2010 - 05:48 PM, said:

it does have hydraulic lifters & doesn't require valve adjustments. That being said, they do tend to run noisy, especially when hot. Nothing to worry about though, it's when everything gets quiet that you need to get your wallet warmed up.


This brings up the same question. How do I adjust my timing? Should I just go to Badweb and find it there?
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Posted 08 July 2010 - 09:45 AM

View Postsoulfire, on 06 July 2010 - 06:37 AM, said:

This brings up the same question. How do I adjust my timing? Should I just go to Badweb and find it there?

If this just started and you have not moved the timing plate I would say you have a disconnected wire on your VOES switch.. If you want to adjust the tiimg I would suggest you pick up a maintance manual..
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Posted 08 July 2010 - 11:16 AM

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If this just started and you have not moved the timing plate I would say you have a disconnected wire on your VOES switch.. If you want to adjust the tiimg I would suggest you pick up a maintance manual..


I'm willing to fork the cash for one but I cannot find a manual for a 2000 M2 anywhere. The sporttwin store doesn't have it, ebay doesn't have it, ASB doesn't... Where the hell is the switch anyway?
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Posted 08 July 2010 - 05:14 PM

Any dealership should be able to order the manual.
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Posted 09 July 2010 - 06:52 AM

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I'm willing to fork the cash for one but I cannot find a manual for a 2000 M2 anywhere. The sporttwin store doesn't have it, ebay doesn't have it, ASB doesn't... Where the hell is the switch anyway?

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 06:56 AM

View Posts2pengy, on 09 July 2010 - 08:52 AM, said:

Under the gas tank


Does anyone have a pic of the switch so I can see for myself?

So it's been a while since I orginally posted this so I conclude that this site is dieing. I'll go to Badweb from now on.
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 09:40 PM

I have an 01 manual in the store...same thing as the 00.

http://store.sporttw...&product_id=150

Look for bad vacuum lines/leaks.

Check your carb manifold rubber for leaks.

I think the PN for a VOES is 26555-94 but I'll need to check that....could be bad.

now.. having said that... if you really want a response and help starting off your first post by saying

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If I don't get e response, this will be my last post on this site. I'll get help elsewhere...


doesn't exactly create the atmosphere you need to get some help.

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So it's been a while since I orginally posted this so I conclude that this site is dieing. I'll go to Badweb from now on.


and that is your choice... not sure why you have to announce it.... I'm a very sensitive person, are you attempting to hurt my feelings? :blink:
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Posted 15 July 2010 - 11:34 AM

View PostBuellMan, on 14 July 2010 - 11:40 PM, said:

I have an 01 manual in the store...same thing as the 00.

http://store.sporttw...&product_id=150

Look for bad vacuum lines/leaks.

Check your carb manifold rubber for leaks.

I think the PN for a VOES is 26555-94 but I'll need to check that....could be bad.

now.. having said that... if you really want a response and help starting off your first post by saying



doesn't exactly create the atmosphere you need to get some help.



and that is your choice... not sure why you have to announce it.... I'm a very sensitive person, are you attempting to hurt my feelings? :blink:



I've posted questions before and sources for answers to anything Buell related is tough to get. So far've relied on the site to help me out after I got screwed form the dealer when I purchased my cyclone used. It's been two years and I'm just now getting it to the point where I can trust it so when something like this happens (engine pinging) it really pisses me off that I have have another issue to fix. I thought my question was simple enough for any knowlegable Buell/Harley mechanic or owner. When no one responds to it, it's like getting kicked in the junk or someone saying F.U. I'm hoping my explaination of my frustration is good enough but I'm at the point where I love the bike but hate owning it. Oh... by the way, isn't the 2001 model fuel injected?
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Posted 15 July 2010 - 05:20 PM

View Postsoulfire, on 15 July 2010 - 12:34 PM, said:

I've posted questions before and sources for answers to anything Buell related is tough to get. So far've relied on the site to help me out after I got screwed form the dealer when I purchased my cyclone used. It's been two years and I'm just now getting it to the point where I can trust it so when something like this happens (engine pinging) it really pisses me off that I have have another issue to fix. I thought my question was simple enough for any knowlegable Buell/Harley mechanic or owner. When no one responds to it, it's like getting kicked in the junk or someone saying F.U. I'm hoping my explaination of my frustration is good enough but I'm at the point where I love the bike but hate owning it. Oh... by the way, isn't the 2001 model fuel injected?



All of the X1's are fuel injected, but they have the same intake manifold & gaskets as the carbed models. In my personal opinion Buells DDFI setup is paleolithic & prone to coughing issues, running lean, etc. They got it more sorted out with the XB models but the X1's are extremely hit & miss.

Now I forgot, do you have a cyclone or an X1? If it's the cyclone then that is carbed, vastly superior bikes to the X1's.
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Posted 18 July 2010 - 10:16 PM

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Oh... by the way, isn't the 2001 model fuel injected?


All Cyclones were carbureted.
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 06:19 AM

View PostBuellMan, on 19 July 2010 - 12:16 AM, said:

All Cyclones were carbureted.


I have a Cyclone and it's pinging. It does cough as much as it used to. I need to know how to time this thing. I can feel in the bike that the ignition is to far advanced. How do I change the timing? I know where I have to do it but this dual fire ignition is screwing with my head. Also, I've heard of different styles of timing marks and such. Does anyone have experience timing these things?
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Posted 21 July 2010 - 03:27 PM

Unfortunately I have zero experience with timing a Buell. if you had/have the manual though it would describe step by step how to do it.
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Posted 22 July 2010 - 06:32 AM

View Postdyna, on 21 July 2010 - 05:27 PM, said:

Unfortunately I have zero experience with timing a Buell. if you had/have the manual though it would describe step by step how to do it.


I guess I don't have much of a choice then.. Thanks guys. B)
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